Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Marcelin said the detectives, referring to Patricia Wright, asked, Dont you want that [expletive] off the street?. I want to know why no one has answered this question: if there was no root found on the hair clutched in Joanns hand how was the lab able to produce all those results that could not have been found without roots??? What they reported to us is that she came into their care in 1999 where she was found in need, in the streets in Puerto Rico, where she had been wandering around. The fact that there was a broken fingernail with skin attached to it found on her clothingand wasnt Patricias. No show. Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Puny policy. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Dance defense. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. His nephew, Islam, the brother to Amina and Sarah and son to Yaser, pleaded guilty to the same charges in June 2021 and received 10 years. You murdered your girls," she said. This article seems to have a great many errors and omissions, more by design, I fancy, than a need to tell the story objectively. We really thought she was dead all those years. But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. Unless theres a complicity between him and her, and the reason she didnt divulge it is because she hopes to put all the blame on him, when she was the one to murder and he was a planner. Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. Watching Reasonable Doubt right now hope they also find that she did it. In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Patricia Charles Robert, the 3-month-old son she had with Gary Gabard, died of sudden infant death syndrome; Patricia found him blue in his crib. Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. Well of course it is, so you overstated your opinion as though you know it to be fact, thus the jury and others were wrong; ironic because youre quick to complain that others are much to sure of *their* opinion shes guilty. False. Said In summer, after thawing, there will be small animals eating the body and even turkey vultures, but not so much in the winter. Yaser had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014, according to CBS. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. In April 2019, 69-year-old Patricia was found guilty of second-degree murder and the use of a firearm in the commission of a felony. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. They had a son, Alex Martin, in August of 1994. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Justice is about uncovering the truth. Within about seven months of Larry being placed in a maximum-security prison, the LAPD paid him a visit. Every type of cut, bruise etc would heal perfectly in that time. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Theres speculation and theres lies period. If you so dearly feel the need to occupy the high ground in debate or an argument, have the decency to quote accurately. Jenkins at one time had hired Allen Prue to plow her driveway. The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. She also will never get to see them get married. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. Ms. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led "The family has been very patient. The case was eventually abandoned. Patricia She was falsely convicted of killing her husband when the Los Angeles Police Department reopened a 17-year-old cold case after coercing two witnesses to tape a confession pegging Patricia Wright and family friend Lawrence Slaughter as the killers. What definition? Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Nope. I expect she will admit it one day. This woman was obsessed and jealous. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Patricia Yet they insisted in the trial that the call came in on the 13th. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Did Patricia have the dyed blond hair when they broke up in 1993? So lets get going on the recap of the Forensic Files episode A Woman Scorned, along with extra information drawn from internet research: Joann Marie OConnor was born on Oct. 11, 1968, the youngest of Sarah and David OConnors four children. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Walmart woe. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. You seem to have a fragile ego. Allen and Patricia Prue were arrested two days after Jenkins' death. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. guilty Its nine minutes into the video. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Murdering Mother Hidden Face of Honor Killing Patricia Owens called her ex-husband Yaser Said the devil for allegedly murdering their two daughters at his trial in Dallas on Aug. 4, 2022. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. I deduced my opinion to be fact because of what Ive read and seen and is supported by evidence which was never disclosed at her trial. Feb 7, 2017 Patricia A. Giddings, seated beside Keeseville-based attorney Jacob Painter in Clinton County Court on Tuesday, spoke only to affirm she understood the proceedings. DALLAS Yaser Said, once listed as one of the most wanted men in America, has been found guilty of killing his two teenage daughters. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. According to court documents, Yassein and Islam Said had been communicating with Yaser Said since Jan. 1, 2008, to help him evade capture. Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. I think shes guilty for sure. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. That woman has no soul. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. j} [gut('bIKL|kY4`a;]MQ p2x $kw. One on one? As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. A Florida mother, who allegedly lied to police that her son with autism was abducted by two black men, was charged with the child's murder, police said. Senate Bill 1399, the compassionate release bill signed into law a year ago, allows prisoners who are permanently and medically incapacitated to be released from prison and into the care of family and caretakers. He was captured in August and is in state custody. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. Stop defending her when she is guilty!!!!! The only record of a call from Patricia to the Katrinak household was on 12/7/94. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Guilty As I stated previously, if she cannot speak for herself, Im happy to step up on her behalf. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? Amina Said's mother Patricia Owens Said was not charged with murder. It was like living in your room and getting to go to your kitchen for one hour a day, remembers Larry Wright. Unbloody vehicle. A newspaper account described Patricia as a soft-spoken, demure woman who had a sweet Southern accent and wore feminine clothes in court. Traupman died in 2016. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Above, we have another whos totally clueless, has little or no knowledge of this case, but is happy to display his/her ignorance with a rant based on limited knowledge learned from biased documentaries who thinks that by using offensive and insulting language itll influence those who support Rorrer into changing their opinions. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). Its perfectly understandable that one should feel sorry for the victims of this heinous crime. And NOBODY saw her at all? Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. Crystal Carter is a Bay Area-based reporting fellow with the Center for Media, Crime and Justice in the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York (CUNY). It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. From my point of view, the American police investigations are first hand, and often very poorly done, Ive only seen worse in the British police, which is paradoxical given the laudatory talent of both nationalities, but it is a Scandinavian saying: bigger the mouth, smaller the facts. What evidence is there she actually left the state? Dial-a-problem. [emailprotected]. Flaw in reasoning. Said Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". She held up pictures of her dead daughters. After one bullet didnt kill Joann, the gun locked up, so Patricia had to beat her to death, according to the prosecution. Then you claim this is an opinion. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. Thanks for contacting us. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded. "You knew how the Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. She had money put aside. It makes me sick. (Media sources vary as to whether she actually worked at the stable or just rented a stall there for her own horse.). The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. in journalism from the University of Southern California. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. guilty But none of those charges ever stuck. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. I believe this woman murdered Joann and Alex. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. Had there been a switch? Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing.